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Rick Warren Retracts Prop 8 endorsement

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Rick Warren Retracts Prop 8 endorsement

Postby Jonathan Melton on 2009 Apr 08 Wed 11:44 am

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=481280

I think this is a must-read for all of you Rick Warren supporters on this forum.
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Re: Rick Warren Retracts Prop 8 endorsement

Postby Rlvaughn on 2009 Apr 08 Wed 12:43 pm

From several sites that claim this as one thing he said on Larry King:
Rick Warren wrote:In the first place, I am not an anti-gay or anti-gay-marriage activist. I never have been, never will be. During the whole Proposition 8 thing, I never once went to a meeting, never once issued a statement, never—never once even gave an endorsement in the two years Prop 8 was going.

Sounds more like a denial that he ever endorses rather than a retraction. But the content of this YouTube video certainly sounds like an endorsement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o4QqGbQmU0
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Re: Rick Warren Retracts Prop 8 endorsement

Postby Rlvaughn on 2009 Apr 09 Thu 2:05 pm

One News Now wrote:[Bishop Harry] Jackson argues that Warren was "aiding and abetting a deception around what kind of stance the Bible calls Christians to take" by telling Larry King that opposing the recent Iowa Supreme Court ruling legalizing same-sex marriage was "not his agenda."

"He is the author of The Purpose Driven Life book," Jackson notes, "and therefore people are going to think, 'Well, this is not on my mission -- it's not on my purpose. I don't have to stand for truth.'
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Re: Rick Warren Retracts Prop 8 endorsement

Postby studymore on 2009 Apr 09 Thu 3:48 pm

Brian McLaren explains this on his blog. I have often categorized McLaren and Warren together, but have never had much to go on but gut feeling. We'll see where this heads. If Warren keeps drifting to the left, we'll know my gut was right!

...we need changes in the way we address our points of controversy and conflict. Two cases in point:

Abortion - thirty-plus years of pro-life versus pro-choice debate have gotten us nowhere. Nothing has changed. Polarization paralyzes, and that's worse than a stalemate, because huge amounts of money, energy, and loyalty have been expended that could have been invested more profitably differently or elsewhere. So now, the conversation is shifting from abortion criminalization to abortion reduction. That, to me, is an encouraging sign. People can be both against abortion and against criminalization, and they can be both for choice and for reduction. The old, hard-bitten categories may soon be identified as part of the problem. Where can this shift in conversation lead?

Homosexuality - the conversation is shifting from how laws can be used to marginalize, shame, disadvantage, and otherwise express disapproval of homosexuality (or the opposite) to how gay and lesbian people - who probably make up about six or seven percent of the population, and always have, and always will (estimates range from three to ten percent)-- should be treated in a civil society, and how people who disagree on the issue of gay marriage can avoid polarizing, paralyzing discourse that goes nowhere constructive. I anticipate (thinking of Melissa Etheridge's beautiful insights on the subject) that the conversation will continue to shift to how the glbt and straight communities can work together for the common good in critical areas of peace, poverty, and care for our planet.
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