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Jon Smith wrote:What do you suppose the popular schemes of the day were back in 1834. Wasn't that about the time that they started having invitations at the end of preaching? When did the organ and piano first get introduced into those churches? Was it around the same time? I know people had been writing religious pamphlets for many years at that point, even before the American Revolution. What do you suppose the popular schemes were? Apparently is was pretty important to have to major meetings over it even though they never actually said what it was?
Chad Whitely wrote:I am surprised that someone who has called himself a missionary Baptist would be peddling the ideas of the anti-Missionary Baptists. Since when have we become enamored with the world view of the reformed?
I am not enamored with the world view of the reformed. I repudiate Calvinism in its entirety.
If being a "missionary Baptist" means believing that we should preach the gospel to the lost and send men to preach the gospel to the lost and to establish churches, then I gladly accept the name. However, if being a "missionary Baptist" means accepting all of the man contrived schemes which have supplanted the work of the Holy Spirit, then I repudiate it as surely as I repudiate Calvinism.
The original issue in the anti-missions controversy was not Calvinism nor the propriety of the preaching the gospel to the lost. The issue was the propriety of the schemes of man which were designed to aid the Holy Spirit and to enrich those who administered them. So far as those issues go, the "antis" were right and the "missionaries" were wrong. How any God fearing Baptist man can look at the moral and spiritual corruption wrought by the so called "modern missionary movement" and conclude otherwise is beyond my ability to comprehend.
Mark Osgatharp
Wynne, Arkansas
Jon Smith wrote:The Word is Right....not men and their little meetings and councils of yesteryear!
Mark Osgatharp wrote:The original issue in the anti-missions controversy was not Calvinism nor the propriety of the preaching the gospel to the lost. The issue was the propriety of the schemes of man which were designed to aid the Holy Spirit and to enrich those who administered them. So far as those issues go, the "antis" were right and the "missionaries" were wrong.
R.L. Vaughn wrote:They are basically the same arguments of Graves, Bogard, et al.
Chad Whitely wrote:The views you espouse come from the world view of the reformed (Hardshell) theologians. They simply do not sync with the imperative to reach the lost.
Chad Whitely wrote:....but what missionary activity exactly are you for?
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